Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS



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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby saurabhgupta86 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:17 pm

Hi Enrico

I got your point. SOUNDEX algorithm will not work in this case as i am looking for Phonetic Transcription, so that when somebody looks at the word, will know how to pronounce it.

In this situation, how i should proceed further. Please suggest.

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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby Akatsukami » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:28 pm

As Dr. Sorichetti and I have indicated -- several times -- the only possibility is to create (or purchase) a data base of names with Roman (character) spellings and phonetic representations. When a name is entered, do a lookup.

Incidentally, is "Richard Wagner" pronounced "RITSH-ard WAG-ner" or "REEKH-art VAHG-ner"? Think about what this means for your application.
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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby saurabhgupta86 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:41 pm

Hi All,

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby enrico-sorichetti » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:44 pm

Please advice.

In this situation, how i should proceed further. Please suggest.


reread my previous reply and meditate on what can be expected from a <forum>

the issue might be the object of a nice consulting contract,
why should be design the application for Your organization for free

but here is a hint ...

choose the standard Phonetic representation
buy the proper dictionary according to the above
( paying attention to the character set used )

define the database and load it with the dictionary data

modify the application to access and display the phonetic part using the phonetics database

train the personnel to understand and pronounce properly the phonetics ( probably the most difficult task )

really something that is above your job description and , sorry to be rude, also Your skills :mrgreen:
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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby dick scherrer » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:47 pm

Hello,

I am talking only about a person's name here.
Which will include very many (most?) words . . .

fwiw
Hope this helps,
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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby saurabhgupta86 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:55 pm

Thank you very much Enrico.

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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby saurabhgupta86 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:56 pm

Hi Dick,

Yes, that is true.

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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby prino » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:12 am

saurabhgupta86 wrote:The requirement is, i have a NAME field on CICS screen, say EMPLOYEE name, i have to add a new field PHONETIC REPRESENTATION for the field.
So that the person who is looking at the EMPLOYEE records, should be able to see - How to pronounce the employee's name.

Now I see, the poor US/UK/etc employee needs to think he or she is talking to a fellow country person, rather than someone bought in on the cheap...

Here's another problem: give the phonetic equivalent of "ghoti"...
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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby Akatsukami » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:44 am

prino wrote:
saurabhgupta86 wrote:The requirement is, i have a NAME field on CICS screen, say EMPLOYEE name, i have to add a new field PHONETIC REPRESENTATION for the field.
So that the person who is looking at the EMPLOYEE records, should be able to see - How to pronounce the employee's name.

Now I see, the poor US/UK/etc employee needs to think he or she is talking to a fellow country person, rather than someone bought in on the cheap...

If that's the goal, it may not be an achievable one; knowing how to pronounce a word is not the same as being able to pronounce it. How are you at dental fricatives?
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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

Postby NicC » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:45 am

ghoti = fish

touGH
wOmen (sometimes pronounced wimen)
naTIon
The problem I have is that people can explain things quickly but I can only comprehend slowly.
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