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ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby LasseH » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:53 pm

Have a FB12 file where I want to have data consisting of numbers (in all 12 columns)

EDIT       K39828.B.CNTL                                   Columns 00001 00012
 Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR
 ****** ***************************** Top of Data *****************************
 =PROF> ....CNTL (FIXED - 12)....RECOVERY ON....NUMBER OFF.....................
 =PROF> ....CAPS OFF....HEX OFF....NULLS ON STD....TABS OFF....................
 =PROF> ....AUTOSAVE ON....AUTONUM OFF....AUTOLIST OFF....STATS OFF............
 =PROF> ....PROFILE UNLOCK....IMACRO NONE....PACK OFF....NOTE ON...............
 =PROF> ....HILITE OFF CURSOR FIND.............................................
 =COLS> ----+----1--                                                          
 '''''' 000000001234                                                          
 '''''' 000000003456                                                          
 '''''' 000000006789                                                          
 ****** **************************** Bottom of Data ***************************
 


Pressing Enter and End and then doing a Edit again, the profile is changed to Number on STD, even the linenumbers is changed.

EDIT       K39828.B.CNTL                                   Columns 00001 00012
Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR  
****** ***************************** Top of Data ******************************
==MSG> -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).          
==MSG>           Data has valid standard numbers.                              
001234 000000001234                                                            
003456 000000003456                                                            
006789 000000006789                                                            
****** **************************** Bottom of Data ****************************
 


How can I keep it "number off"

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Re: ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby NicC » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:03 pm

Probably because you are using CNTL as your low level qualifier. This dataset is recognised by ISPF as a JCL library (LRECL=80) so it is possibly that.
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Re: ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby prino » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:17 pm

The only way to keep "NUM OFF" if a dataset has valid sequence numbers is to use an initial macro. Similar to saving a dataset in all-UPPERCASE with CAPS OFF. Edit it again, and ISPF will set CAPS ON.

And line-numbers are totally irrelevant to this.
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Re: ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby enrico-sorichetti » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:18 pm

since the record format is FIXED and in the last eight positions there are valid sequence numbers, then ISPF assumes NUMBER ON

it is the BASIC rule of ISPF NUMBER/ON/OFF VB/FB

as Prino has suggested, use an initial edit macro to set up things the way You like/want/need
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Re: ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby LasseH » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:25 pm

Thnx guys

So whatever I do I will be overruled by the ISPF-editor.

Wonder why "he" doesn't trust me, knowing what I'm doing.

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Re: ISPW Edit sequence numbers

Postby steve-myers » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:42 am

=PROF> ....CNTL (FIXED - 12)

This is telling us you are editing a data set with LRECL=12 records. By default, ISPF will use sequence numbers in columns 5 through 12 (the rightmost 8 column) in the data if this data area contains numeric data in ascending order when it initially reads the data set. Mr. Sorichetti sort of said the same thing. I don't think any of us realized this is not a "normal" JCL data set with LRECL=80. I've been using ISPF and its ancestors for roughly 40 years, and I didn't realize it until I asked myself, "What does FIXED-12 actually mean?" and did 5 minutes, if that, of research.

It's not an issue of "trust." ISPF has rather fixed ideas about where sequence numbers are located. For fixed length records, it is the rightmost 8 columns of each record; for variable length records it is the first 8 data bytes after the RDW. For "undefined" length records, it is immaterial since ISPF can't "edit" these data sets.
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