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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby dick scherrer » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:24 am

Hello,

than get my message across to you, which you seem to be completely ignoring. Jesus..
HE's busy. . . :?
Keep in mnd that the poster is responsible for making the post clear. We cannot know what you mean to say, so this is up to you.

I get it that you're annoyed at newbies.
Actually, this forum is here to help "newbies".
Hope this helps,
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby v1gnesh » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:51 am

Hello,

I don't mean him specifically. I meant everyone who has posted so far, focus on pointing flaws in my general direction. Is it so hard to be a little polite? I think I've PM-ed you long back, when I faced the same tone in this forum.

"Actually, this forum is here to help "newbies". "

With all this aggressive tone? Barely seems like it. It's not hard to keep in mind that someone with less experience doesn't have the perspective that you have, and the experience to know where he's looking.
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby BillyBoyo » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:07 pm

v1gnesh,

How about just trying to "get over" feeling that we are "agressive" (or "condescending" or whatever)?

You have given very little information, and almost none since your first post.

It is not even clear if you have followed-up on the Google information, or if you were just looking for the "exact" thing to be explained somehow somewhere, directly, for your case.

I'm not able to view few IEF403I messages in the syslog, except for -

the ones that are generated by Control-M's newday jobs
BPXAS
SMFDMP
CTMDAY (Control-M newday procedure)
surprisingly, few jobs submitted by users

SYS1.PARMLIB(MPFLST00) contains "IEF403I JOB START TIME". I checked in a production server and it has the same MPFLST00 entry. I get all IEF403I messages in the production server.


It is not even clear from this what the extent of the problem is. You're "not able to view [a] few" and you seem to say you can see "[surprisingly] few jobs submitted by users".

If you are seeing some jobs submitted by users, then what is the difference between those that you can see the message for, and those that you can't?

Control-M is a likely part of the equation. What is different in how that is set up where you don't see all the messages, and somewhere where you do see all the messages?

Can you do the Google, and follow-up on the three most likely? Might not give you the answer directly, but might lead you to know more about how the production of the message can be controlled, which might lead you to find the answer itself.

The problem is a "site specific" problem, even "system specific" within your site. There is no "magic answer" anyone can give you ("oh, yes, that must mean you've not...").

If you just don't like being told this in the different ways that you've been told this, so decide not to take any notice, I'm not sure where you're going to go with it.
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby Robert Sample » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:14 pm

It's not my mainframe
Yet, at the same time you seem to think this one LPAR is not behaving the same as the other LPARs at your site. If there truly is different behavior, then you need to accept that SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT. It could be something in SYS1.PARMLIB, it could be something in a vendor package such as Control-M, it could be something else, but somewhere somehow something is not the same to cause the different results. And as long as you protest there is no difference, there is NOTHING we can do to help you. Accepting that there is a problem is the first step in resolving it, and so far it does not appear that you are doing this.

Personally, I think it is about time to lock this topic as you are not providing any information that would help diagnose / resolve the issue, and every time someone suggests something to try all you do is say that you did it and the problem is not there.
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby v1gnesh » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:01 pm

I'll be logging into the system in a couple of hours. I'll provide what was asked here. I didn't have access to the systems over the weekend.
Ok, something is different. I've just been asking for help to identify what could be different.
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby enrico-sorichetti » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:47 pm

I've just been asking for help to identify what could be different.


You were so busy whining and badmouthing us that You completely disregarded my suggestion ....

to save You the trouble of scrolling back here it is again


ask Your support for the checklist used when installing products and You will find what <modification> have been done to the base system
extend it to the same for the zOS itself

also it would be worth for You to read and meditate on the basics of system installation...
with particular regard to the MPF ( in wide sense ) exits , see for example
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocente ... /vmxit.htm
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby v1gnesh » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:47 am

Hi,

You very well know that that was never my intention. I'm a bit frustrated and I shouldn't have let it show here. Sorry.

-D MPF
 IEE677I 15.32.44 MPF DISPLAY 447
 MESSAGE ID -MPF  SUPPRESS RETAIN AUTO  TOKEN      EXIT
 ¢HASP000   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP097   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP605   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP608   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP610   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP612   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP628   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP650   -00   NO       YES    YES
 ¢HASP668   -00   NO       YES    YES
 .NO_ENTRY  -00   NO       YES    NO
 +DRS100    -00   YES      YES    NO
 +DRS101    -00   YES      YES    NO
 +SIMPLU02  -00   NO       YES    YES
 $HASP000   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP097   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP100   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP101   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP150   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP160   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP249   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP250   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP301   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP308   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP309   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP317   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP373   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP395   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP532   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP534   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP605   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP608   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP610   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP612   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP628   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP636   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP641   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP646   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP650   -00   NO       YES    YES
$HASP688   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP689   -00   YES      YES    NO
$HASP913   -00   YES      YES    NO
AAU817I    -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFAE000   -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFAE001   -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFAE127   -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFAE139   -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFAE949   -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFFE100   -00   NO       YES    YES
ACF01200   -00   YES      YES    NO
AHL125A    -00   NO       YES    YES
BMC7096I   -00   YES      YES    NO
BMC7147I   -00   YES      YES    NO
BNJ014I    -00   YES      YES    NO
BNJ090I    -00   YES      YES    NO
CNM039I    -00   YES      YES    NO
CNM530I    -00   YES      YES    NO
CNM559I    -00   YES      YES    NO
CSV003I    -00   YES      YES    NO
DC001002   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC013003   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC013004   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC013005   -00   NO       YES    YES
DC013011   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC013013   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC013014   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC091001   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC130002   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC200009   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC200010   -00   NO       YES    YES
DC200017   -00   NO       YES    YES
DC200019   -00   NO       YES    YES
DC201001   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC201003   -00   NO       YES    YES
DC201006   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC202001L  -00   YES      YES    NO
DC202007L  -00   YES      YES    NO
DC202009L  -00   YES      YES    NO
DC202019L  -00   YES      YES    NO
DC203005   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC204002   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC207005   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC261006   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC261011   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390005   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390006   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390007   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390008   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390009   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390010   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390015   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC390020   -00   YES      YES    NO
DC999990   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH0606    -00   NO       YES    YES
DFH0700    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1500    -00   YES      YES    YES
DFH1501    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1513    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1562I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1591I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1596    -00   NO       YES    YES
DFH1709I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1710I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1711I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1712I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1796I   -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH1799    -00   NO       YES    YES
DFH2305    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH4500    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH4508    -00   YES      YES    NO
DFH4510    -00   YES      YES    NO
DSI034I    -00   YES      YES    NO
DSI081I    -00   YES      YES    NO
DSI090I    -00   YES      YES    NO
DSI201I    -00   YES      YES    NO
DSI240I    -00   NO       YES    YES
DSI530I    -00   YES      YES    NO
E          -00   YES      YES    NO
FNM045I    -00   YES      YES    NO
FNM200I    -00   YES      YES    YES
FNM665E    -00   YES      YES    NO
FNM667E    -00   YES      YES    NO
G          -00   YES      YES    NO
GL         -00   YES      YES    NO
IEA848I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEA989I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEA995I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IECTMS9    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC020I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC030I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC031I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC032I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC130I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC161I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC502E    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC705I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC999I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEE043I    -00   NO       YES    NO
IEE105I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IEE136I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEE301I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEE400I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEE600I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IEE928I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF097I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF125I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF126I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF176I    -00   NO       YES    NO
IEF196I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF234E    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF236I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF237I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF288I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF403I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF404I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IEF450I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IEF452I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF453I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF677I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IKJ144I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IKJ606I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IKT010D    -00   NO       YES    YES
IKT012D    -00   NO       YES    YES
IOS000I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST020I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST097I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IST129I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST259I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST440I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST441I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST442I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST443I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST461I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST464I    -00   NO       YES    YES
IST619I    -00   YES      YES    NO
IST720I    -00   NO       YES    YES
JMN1980I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN2000I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN2008I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN2020I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN2054I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN2070I   -00   YES      YES    NO
JMN3010I   -00   YES      YES    NO
L          -00   YES      YES    NO
M          -00   YES      YES    NO
MSI501E    -00   NO       YES    YES
MSI502I    -00   NO       YES    YES
MSI506E    -00   NO       YES    YES
NG         -00   YES      YES    NO
NY         -00   YES      YES    NO
SE         -00   YES      YES    NO
SM         -00   YES      YES    NO
VPS221E    -00   NO       YES    YES
VPS310E    -00   NO       YES    YES
VPS312E    -00   NO       YES    YES
VPS332E    -00   NO       YES    YES
VPS349E    -00   NO       YES    YES
VPS825E    -00   NO       YES    YES
WER        -00   YES      YES    NO
Y          -00   YES      YES    NO
ACFF90*    -00   YES      YES    NO
ACF9*      -00   YES      YES    NO
ACT*       -00   YES      YES    NO
DSR*       -00   YES      YES    NO
IEC14*     -00   YES      YES    NO
MK4*       -00   YES      YES    NO
TPNWK*     -00   NO       YES    YES
WER*       -00   YES      YES    NO
GENERAL WTO USER EXIT (IEAVMXIT) INACTIVE
SUBSYSTEMS RECEIVING FOREIGN MESSAGES AND DOMS:
*ALL
FIELD    -MPF COLOR  HLIGHT INTEN    FIELD    -MPF COLOR  HLIGHT INTEN
URGATTN  -DFL RED    NONE   HIGH     IMEDACTN -00  RED    RE-VID HIGH
EVETACTN -00  BLUE   NONE   HIGH     GENMSG   -DFL GREEN  NONE   NORM
PPMSG    -00  PINK   NONE   NORM     SELPEN   -DFL BLUE   NONE   NORM
INSTRERR -00  TURQU  NONE   HIGH     ENTRYARA -DFL GREEN  NONE   NORM
WARNLGEN -DFL BLUE   NONE   NORM     WARNRGEN -DFL BLUE   NONE   NORM
WARNRURG -00  YELLOW NONE   HIGH     OOLCNTL  -00  WHITE  NONE   NORM
OOLLABEL -DFL TURQU  NONE   NORM     OOLDATA  -DFL GREEN  NONE   NORM
COMMAND USER EXITS NOT FOUND
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby enrico-sorichetti » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 am

here is the relevant snippet of Your D MPF command
-D MPF
 IEE677I 15.32.44 MPF DISPLAY 447
 MESSAGE ID -MPF  SUPPRESS RETAIN AUTO  TOKEN      EXIT
... ... ...
IEF403I     -00   YES      YES    NO
IEF404I     -00   NO       YES    YES
... ... ...


what in hell do You think that YES under the column SUPPRESS means

and You wonder why we are being rude :evil:
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby v1gnesh » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:10 am

This is the same setting that's present in other LPARs, which don't have this problem. And like I said, jobs that run on a schedule still produce the msgid. I realize I'm not being very clear but please try to understand what I'm saying.
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Re: Missing IEF403I

Postby BillyBoyo » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:35 am

Are you getting all the expected 404's? Do you get the expected 403's if you "unsurpress" them?

These setting may be the same as elsewhere, but something is different. Have you had a look at what is set for any "exits" there may be affecting these?
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