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Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:28 pm
by dick scherrer
Hello,

Why I will by a book, if PDF is available.. I have a laptop and didn't get it free of cost.. and even I have internet connection as well.. and this service is also not free of cost.. So, even after spending so much money.. do you really think I should buy a book.. and If it is copyright material.. they shouldn't have provided this PDF free of cost... deleting a link will not make any difference..
Much of the time, "they" did not provide "it free of cost". Someone posted it illegally. I suppose as one who makes his livinig writing "stuff", i expect others to be paid for their efforts as well. And of course, you should buy a book. Or the PDF or whatever.

anyone should not expect from me that I will ask for something as per his/her thought. It is really ridiculous...
What is ridiculous is so many people believing it is acceptable to steal (yes it IS theft) code and documentation because thay just don't want to pay . . . :(

Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:50 pm
by nikesh_rai
Sir,

May be you think it as THEFT.. but its not applicable for me.. because if someone is putting some content on Internet I suppose he/she is aware of the fact that anybody can access their content. If someone is checking this forum and got some knowledge.. does that mean he is stealing your knowledge or whatever you got after so many years of experience.. or you think you should be paid for the knowledge you are sharing.. at least I never think like that..

Everything is available on the net today.. and you are accessing all those thing everyday.. starting from Google to online shopping.. you are paying less money on online shopping and that does not mean that you are stealing money from grocery shop.. when we are downloading songs from a web-site we are not stealing anything.. it is for downloading only.. and it is free of cost.. :)

any if a person wants to paid for his effort.. he should take action.. if not.. it simply means it is available free of cost for me.. and I am happy with that.. :)

Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:22 pm
by dick scherrer
Hello,

May be you think it as THEFT.. but its not applicable for me..
YES, it is. And the law most places says it applies to you. You do not get to determine if it applies to you. It is not your opinion that matters to the rest of the industry.

If someone is checking this forum and got some knowledge.. does that mean he is stealing your knowledge or whatever you got after so many years of experience
I share what i know freely on these forums. I do not copyright most of what i write (unless required by client contract and then it is never mentioned in an open forum).

Everything is available on the net today..
Which still does not make taking it all right.

and you are accessing all those thing everyday..
NO, i'm not. If i see something interesting and decide i want/need a copy, i join the organization or buy the material from the vendor.

when we are downloading songs from a web-site we are not stealing anything..
Very likely you are . . . Why do you believe the artists do not deserve to be paid for your enjoyment?

you are paying less money on online shopping and that does not mean that you are stealing money from grocery shop..
What a load of manure . . .

Whether one shops online or in a store, there is no theft finding a better price/deal. To walk into the store and walk out with product and not pay is completely unacceptable (and i expect you would agree). Which is the same as illegally downloading.

You should understand that you belong to a growing group of people who see no wrong in this kind of theft. I also do not expect to change your belief/behavior. We just do what we can to keep it off of our forums . . .

Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:28 pm
by Ed Goodman
I think I might see the problem here: "because if someone is putting some content on Internet I suppose he/she is aware of the fact that anybody can access their content"

Nikesh thinks the two people in the above sentence are the SAME person. He thinks the author of the book, who was selling it for $50 and getting a royalty check, decided one day that since folks might want it for free, they would make a terrible copy and then then disperse it free of charge on the internet.

The same for the band members whose songs are on pirate bay. Of course, it makes sense that the band members got together and decided they had made enough money from sales and then made poor quality rips available for free.

After all, buying a laptop is a license to own all copyrighted material in the world, right?

Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:54 pm
by bala_selva
Hi nikil,
Can u pls send me CICS handbook pdf by kageyama to <e-mail address removed>. Since we should violate the rule

Re: Need CICS handbook pdf by kageyama

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:29 pm
by BillyBoyo
Please don't post e-mail addresses publicly, anywhere, unless you are happy to receive all sorts of spam.

Since we should violate the rule


Can you clarify what you mean by that, please?