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Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:17 pm
by saurabhgupta86
Hi Enrico

I got your point. SOUNDEX algorithm will not work in this case as i am looking for Phonetic Transcription, so that when somebody looks at the word, will know how to pronounce it.

In this situation, how i should proceed further. Please suggest.

Thanks & Regards
Saurabh Gupta

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:28 pm
by Akatsukami
As Dr. Sorichetti and I have indicated -- several times -- the only possibility is to create (or purchase) a data base of names with Roman (character) spellings and phonetic representations. When a name is entered, do a lookup.

Incidentally, is "Richard Wagner" pronounced "RITSH-ard WAG-ner" or "REEKH-art VAHG-ner"? Think about what this means for your application.

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:41 pm
by saurabhgupta86
Hi All,

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Regards
Saurabh Gupta

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:44 pm
by enrico-sorichetti
Please advice.

In this situation, how i should proceed further. Please suggest.


reread my previous reply and meditate on what can be expected from a <forum>

the issue might be the object of a nice consulting contract,
why should be design the application for Your organization for free

but here is a hint ...

choose the standard Phonetic representation
buy the proper dictionary according to the above
( paying attention to the character set used )

define the database and load it with the dictionary data

modify the application to access and display the phonetic part using the phonetics database

train the personnel to understand and pronounce properly the phonetics ( probably the most difficult task )

really something that is above your job description and , sorry to be rude, also Your skills :mrgreen:

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:47 pm
by dick scherrer
Hello,

I am talking only about a person's name here.
Which will include very many (most?) words . . .

fwiw

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:55 pm
by saurabhgupta86
Thank you very much Enrico.

Regards,
Saurabh

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:56 pm
by saurabhgupta86
Hi Dick,

Yes, that is true.

Regards
Saurabh

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:12 am
by prino
saurabhgupta86 wrote:The requirement is, i have a NAME field on CICS screen, say EMPLOYEE name, i have to add a new field PHONETIC REPRESENTATION for the field.
So that the person who is looking at the EMPLOYEE records, should be able to see - How to pronounce the employee's name.

Now I see, the poor US/UK/etc employee needs to think he or she is talking to a fellow country person, rather than someone bought in on the cheap...

Here's another problem: give the phonetic equivalent of "ghoti"...

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:44 am
by Akatsukami
prino wrote:
saurabhgupta86 wrote:The requirement is, i have a NAME field on CICS screen, say EMPLOYEE name, i have to add a new field PHONETIC REPRESENTATION for the field.
So that the person who is looking at the EMPLOYEE records, should be able to see - How to pronounce the employee's name.

Now I see, the poor US/UK/etc employee needs to think he or she is talking to a fellow country person, rather than someone bought in on the cheap...

If that's the goal, it may not be an achievable one; knowing how to pronounce a word is not the same as being able to pronounce it. How are you at dental fricatives?

Re: Displaying Phonetics of any Name in CICS

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:45 am
by NicC
ghoti = fish

touGH
wOmen (sometimes pronounced wimen)
naTIon